Ciao! I have arrived

And found Natura Si and Gaia in Pordenone. Also,several 
vendita biologica in area di centro Pordenone. Fa bene! 
Also, I had no idea of the great, cheap, local foods 
available at the town markets. We also dined at the New 
Punjab restaurant in Fontanafredda. Grazie per la 
assistenza, I'm sure we'll enjoy our time in this lovely 
country.

Oh oh oh...one question- what is a good (not full of sugar/ 
trans fats) vegan form of Nutella? I have a recipe (from 
Isa Chandra Moskovitz's "Veganomicon"), but it doesn't 
seem very good.

* ehud wrote:

> Oh oh oh...one question- what is a good (not full of sugar/ 
> trans fats) vegan form of Nutella? I have a recipe (from 
> Isa Chandra Moskovitz's "Veganomicon"), but it doesn't 
> seem very good.

Welcome :-)

I have a recipe, but I've never tried it out:

-100g extra dark chocolate, chopped fine 
-50g hazelnuts, roasted, chopped fine 
-100g brown sugar
-1/2 cup soy milk
-1 tablespoon peanut oil

Whizz up hazelnuts, sugar and chocolate.
Pour mixture into a saucepan and cook it in a bain-marie, 
slowly adding soy milk and oil. Stir frequently until the 
mixture becomes a smooth cream. 
Remove it from the heat, pour it into a glass jar and let 
it cool down. 

Does it seem better than the other one you have?

Ciao,
Marianna

the most popular brand for vegan food is Valsoia, you can 
find it in almost every supermarket. tha brand is not very 
ethical so some people boycott it and i'm not even sure 
it's healthy, but it's good, vegan and easy to find. if 
you buy Valsoia products make sure it says 100% vegetale, 
if it says only vegetale it could contain eggs or milk 
protein. 

I'm afraid Valsoia only makes vegetarian Nutella...

* Lifting_Shadows wrote:

> I'm afraid Valsoia only makes vegetarian Nutella...

WTF???

* pier wrote:

> * Lifting_Shadows wrote:
> 
> > I'm afraid Valsoia only makes vegetarian Nutella...
> 
> WTF???

I'm sorry...like Milou said, if they write "vegetale" it 
means that the product contains eggs and/or milk protein: 
their Nutella is "vegetale"....

:-D 

* Lifting_Shadows wrote:

> * pier wrote:
> 
> > * Lifting_Shadows wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm afraid Valsoia only makes vegetarian Nutella...
> > 
> > WTF???
> 
> I'm sorry...like Milou said, if they write "vegetale" it 
> means that the product contains eggs and/or milk protein: 
> their Nutella is "vegetale"....
> 
> :-D

but still doesn't contain any dairy products, so i call it 
"VEGAN", if you know any non vegan ingredient just say 
it.

anyway, it's not my real problem i make a better 
"nutella" by my own in short time spending very few 
money, and it's even organic and without saturated fat

* ehud wrote:

> Oh oh oh...one question- what is a good (not full of sugar/ 
> trans fats) vegan form of Nutella? I have a recipe (from 
> Isa Chandra Moskovitz's "Veganomicon"), but it doesn't 
> seem very good.

this is the recipe i use every week to make nutella for me 
and friends.

put a 120 grams of roasted hazelnuts in your mixer highest 
speed, when chopped it like flour add 50 gr of dark cocoa 
(don't use chocolate just cocoa powder) add 1 teaspoon of 
vanilla powder, and keep mixing.
now add 200gr of corn oil and 100 gr of maple syrup and 
still mix for a while. while mixing add few soy milk (half 
a cup, little more) as soon as you'll add the milk it will 
immediately change in consistency. just take it out of 
mixer and move it to containers.

i hope the quantity i gave you are right cuz i don't use 
to weight anything, so i balance quantity depending on how 
i feel :)

have nice nutella

ps
this recipe will become immediately toxic and kill you in 
case you're votin' mc-cain-palin november 4th ;) 

* pier wrote:

but still doesn't contain any dairy products, so i call it 
> "VEGAN", if you know any non vegan ingredient just say 
> it. 

I have no clue what non-vegan ingredients they use, I 
don't really want to find out, but there must be something 
wrong if they don't write "100 % vegetale". I remember 
somebody saying they used to eat Valsoia hamburgers, only 
to find out they contain yolk...no notice was given on the 
label...

it's not my real problem i make a better 
> "nutella" by my own in short time spending very few 
> money, and it's even organic and without saturated fat

Good for you :-) You could give your recipe to Ehud.

Oh, you've already posted it. That was quick.
:-) 

* Lifting_Shadows wrote:

> * pier wrote:
> 
> but still doesn't contain any dairy products, so i call it 
> 
> > "VEGAN", if you know any non vegan ingredient just say 
> > it. 
> 
> I have no clue what non-vegan ingredients they use, I 
> don't really want to find out, but there must be something 
> wrong if they don't write "100 % vegetale". I remember 
> somebody saying they used to eat Valsoia hamburgers, only 
> to find out they contain yolk...no notice was given on the 
> label...

the valsoia burger contains yolk (written in ingredients) 
the valsoia nutella doesn't contain any dairy product.

this is the ingredient list of valsoia cream:

Zucchero, oli vegetali, nocciole, estratto di soia in 
polvere, cacao magro, fibra di soia, emulsionante, aromi.

anyway i'm not eating cuz it contains saturated fat and 
other shit, but for what is considered being vegan, this 
product is vegan

So why don't they write "100% vegetale"? I'll never 
trust their nutella if they keep on writing vegetale. 
And after all, Valsoia is not the only brand available for 
a vegan Nutella....vegan food shops surely have plenty of 
it. 

* pier wrote:

> 
> this is the ingredient list of valsoia cream:
> 
> Zucchero, oli vegetali, nocciole, estratto di soia in 
> polvere, cacao magro, fibra di soia, emulsionante, aromi.
> 

I think "aromi" is the key to everything...

* Lifting_Shadows wrote:

> So why don't they write "100% vegetale"? I'll never 
> trust their nutella if they keep on writing vegetale. 
> And after all, Valsoia is not the only brand available for 
> a vegan Nutella....vegan food shops surely have plenty of 
> it.

the best one available for what i found is a brand called 
"under 18" but still it contained sugar and sat fat, like 
every brand available in stores, so the only way to have a 
good one is to make your own

Any chance of you sending your homemade vegella to the 
whole forum? :-)